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JOCK DOC'S
ELBOW-SHOULDER QUESTIONS
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Hi
Harlan. I was doing bicep preacher curls in the gym yesterday and
my bicep popped up to near my shoulder. I guess you can call this
a torn bicep. I will see a doctor tomorrow night and was wondering
if this is a common injury in weight lifters and if this injury is
relatively simple to cure. I have a little discomfort but nothing
major, so I hope it's minor. It looks a lot worse than it feels.
Your feedback would be appreciated.
- Lenny |
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It is
common for men who are weight training to injure their bicep tendon. If
one tears (ruptures) the bicep near their shoulder (long head) although
a deformity may be present permanently, one can usually regain about 90%
of biceps function and strength. However, if the biceps is torn at the
attachment below the elbow this usually requires surgery or else 50% of
biceps strength and function could be lost. I recommend you see an
orthopedic surgeon so a correct diagnosis can be made as a time delay
can effect optimal treatment.
- The
Jock Doc
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My son is a
pitcher in college and has pain in the back of his shoulder between his
shoulder and armpit. He is okay if he doesn't make a throwing motion, but
when he does throw he feels a burning sensation in his shoulder joint. Is
this serious should we see a doctor? He had shoulder arthroscopic surgery
about two years ago when a small piece of tissue was cut out in the back of
the shoulder joint. He has started to do shoulder exercises with the
trainer. -
Darrell |
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I recommend your son see an
orthopedic surgeon. It is possible your son may have a form of
instability, a new labral cartilage tear, an injury to the rotator cuff,
or a nerve injury. His doctor will perform a physical exam and may order an
MRI scan. It is important that a correct diagnosis be made and appropriate
treatment rendered so your son can continue to throw at a high level.
- The Jock Doc
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I was in a
car accident on February 6, 1999. I had a right fractured clavicle and
used a bone growth stimulator from March until June. I required an
orif of clavicle with a bone graft. I have had numerous tomograms with he most recent in January 2000 saying there were mild signs of
healing. I am having a bad burning sensation in the deltoid muscle
and tricep region. I am wondering is this a sign of healing or
something bad? I recently started physical therapy two weeks ago doing
strengthening exercises per doctor's order. I am having a lot of pain
with the physical therapy but I just keep thinking maybe this is pain due to
the bone knitting together. My neurologist thinks I possibly have TOS
due to my signs and symptoms, but my orthopaedic surgeon says no due to EMG.
I get very upset because my doctor won't answer my questions. I was
using a bone stimulator until my last tomo, but the doctor says I don't need
it. I am considering another opinion. What is your input on this
issue. I am having bad pain. I am also a nurse and am disabled at
present. My doctor says I cannot perform any lifting due to this
injury. He says I need to find another occ. Also, will I ever be
pain free with this type of injury?
- Shawna
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Answer:
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There are a
variety of types and locations of clavicle fractures. Generally, once
the clavicle heals there should be good function and little pain. Your
problem sounds complex and is difficult to offer a more informed opinion
without seeing you and the x-rays. Since, you are not yet doing well I
think a 2nd opinion is a good idea from an orthopedic surgeon in your
area.
- The Jock Doc
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Hi, I'm 15,
and in a month I am having arthroscopic surgery on my shoulder to tighten my
capsule. I am a competitive fast windmill pitcher in softball, and I was
wondering how the surgery would affect my pitching. One of my two doctors
told me I can never pitch, or play again, and the second doctor told me I
can just play, and not pitch. So I'm asking you, in your professional
experience, have you seen players come back with this type of surgery, or
would it be unwise to push my shoulder and subject it to stretching again?
Thanks for your time.
- Michelle
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Answer:
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Athletes with
multidirectional instability (loose jointed shoulders) may benefit from a
capsular shrinkage procedure (thermal capsulography). This is an
arthroscopic procedure designed to tighten the shoulder capsule. If
successful many athletes can return to their sport and even return to
pitching. However, the success of the surgery depends upon the degree of
the instability, associated damage in the shoulder, and hard work with
post op rehab. Your surgeon is the best one to tell you the true
likelihood of success.
- The Jock Doc
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I'm 30 years
old and have dislocated my left shoulder twice. The first time was in the
spring of 1994 and the second time was a few days ago (Jan. 2000). Both
times was while skiing. Both times required trips to the hospital to have
the injury reduced. Both were anterior dislocations caused by bracing a fall
with an outstretched arm. Now that it's happened twice would I likely be a
good candidate for surgery? I participate in a number of sports and have
lifted weights for 16 years but working out hasn't seemed to increase my
shoulder's stability.
- Dave Carr
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Answer:
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Once a
shoulder has dislocated twice it is very likely that it will happen again.
I recommend you see an orthopedic surgeon who will likely order a high
resolution MRI scan to help determine the extent of the damage and whether
surgery is necessary and if it can be successfully be performed
arthroscopically or requires an open procedure.
- The Jock Doc
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I have a
shoulder problem that is causing me pain. My doctor says that I may need a
"mumford or Mumfer procedure." Can you tell me what that
is.. Thank you.
- Dave |
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A Mumford
procedure is done for chronic pain at the acromioclavicular joint. Where
the collar bone meets the shoulder can become painful due to trauma,
weight training, or arthritis. If non surgical treatment fails, then the
orthopedic surgeon will resect the outside part of the clavicle "Mumford"
procedure. This surgery is usually effective in relieving pain and can be
performed either arthroscopically or with an open incision.
- The Jock Doc
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I am the 18
year old basketball player who has written before. Currently, I have had my
second corticosteroid shot by Dr. Miceli from Boston Childrens Hospital. To
date with no relief!!! FU appointment saw Dr. M's nurse and was told may
take up to 12 weeks to see results. Have another FU appointment in 2 weeks!
Dr. M had diagnosed an iliosopsis tentonitis and therefore the shots, which
usually work according to articles published by him. You mentioned something
about a neurologist and a possible obturator nerve entrapment or hip labral
tear. Will or are these two possibilities shown on MRI's and/or need to be
seen by a neurologist in order to be diagnosed? In either the Boston or New
York area, who would you recommend I see for a neurologic workup, further
advise, suggestions, etc....... Again, your suggestions are
appreciated.
- Jeanne |
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It is still
possible that you may respond to the cortisone injections. If you don not
then a neurologic consultation may help. I do not know any neurologists
well enough in those cities to recommend any one specialist. A high
resolution MRI scan may show a labral tear but will not show a nerve
entrapment.
- The Jock Doc
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I had
arthroscopic shoulder surgery a week and a half ago for shoulder
instability. I don't intentionally move my shoulder and keep it in the
sling, but this morning when I was rolling over in bed it felt like my
shoulder was slipping. I am scared that the surgery was unsuccessful and
that I'll have to have surgery again. I have an appointment with my doctor
in several days, but is there any way to tell if the shoulder is okay before
I go to see my doctor?
- Katherine |
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Most of the
time if you are in your sling it is unlikely that you damaged the repair.
However, there is no ay to know for sure what you are feeling without you
being checked by your doctor.
- The Jock Doc
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Is
arthroscopic treatment of a dislocated shoulder a viable option compared to
open surgery? Have you heard of a "new" procedure where an RF
probe is used to heat shrink the capsule. Also what is the difference in
recovery time for an arthroscopic procedure vs. open surgery? Thanks.
- Shawn |
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The decision
as to whether arthroscopic surgery alone verses an open surgical
stabilization procedure is best depends on several factors. The age
of the patient, the number of times dislocations occur, the quality of the
labral cartilage tissue, the degree of instabilities, and the size of the
Hill Sachs lesion (defect in the ball part of the shoulder) all are factors
in determining the success rate of arthroscopic surgery. Recently, a
thermal shrinkage procedure to reduce the size of the stretched out
shoulder capsule has been added to the arthroscopic procedure to further
enhance the success rate. I recommend you discuss the options with your
orthopedic surgeon as to what has the best chance of success of your type
of dislocation.
- The Jock Doc
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I read that
you're the team doctor of the Heat. I'm sure you'll be able to answer my
question then. Three weeks ago, I had arthroscopic shoulder surgery in
Louisville, Kentucky. As far as I know, the Bankart procedure was all that
was done, although my doctor did say he did everything necessary to get my
shoulder back to the way it ""should be"". So far,
everything is going great. I'm an avid basketball player - that's what got
me to this point. I know there was some bone damage done, but I don't know
the specifics. I guess there was nothing to fix that. And now for my
question...thanks for reading this - I know it's long. One time I saw a
b-ball player on T.V. wearing some type of brace on his shoulder. The
announcer said that he had dislocated his shoulder. Does a brace exist that
helps to prevent re-dislocating one's shoulder? I'd greatly appreciate any
information about this. Also, do you have any other advice for my recovery
from a basketball doctors point of view. Thank you so much. -
Tim |
Answer:
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Many patients
with an unstable shoulder can have an arthroscopic repair known as a
Bankart procedure. The surgeon restores the normal shoulder anatomy by
repairing the labral cartilage and stretched out ligaments and capsule. A
large bony defect of the ball part of the shoulder (Hill Sachs Lesion) can
decrease the chance of successful arthroscopic repair and in these
patients an open surgical stabilization procedure is performed. After
these surgeries the patient is usually in a sling for 4 weeks followed by
several months of rehab to regain good motion and strength of the
shoulder. However, in an effort to allow for adequate healing, the athlete
usually cannot return to contact or throwing sports for at least 6 months.
Although shoulder harnesses exist and can be obtained from your physical
therapist these many times are not effective in protecting the shoulder
and are rarely used in basketball players.
- The Jock Doc
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I am a 30
year old male. It has been determined by an MRI that I have at least a
partial tear in my rotator cuff tendon. Two of the three doctors I have seen
believe in cutting me open, while the last doctor I seen said he would do it
arthroscopically. In your opinion, what is better at getting the job done
right? -
Robert |
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Most
orthopedic surgeons prefer to approach shoulder surgery with an exam of
the shoulder under anesthesia to assess range of motion and stability.
Then an arthroscopic exam is performed. Many rotator cuff problems can be
handled arthroscopically. Occasionally the rotator cuff tear is to large
to fix with the "scope" and then the surgeon will proceed with
an open incision and repair. I recommend you choose the orthopedic surgeon
you feel most comfortable with.
- The Jock Doc
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I am a 21
year old gymnast plagued by frequent subluxations of my shoulder (around 3 a
week when training). I saw an orthopedic surgeon about a year ago and he
took some x-rays and said he couldn't determine the cause of the
subluxations. He said he wouldn't do an MRI because they weren't reliable
and he could only give a diagnosis by doing arthroscopic surgery. I have
quit training and my shoulder has stayed in place for almost a year but I
still have some pain and discomfort at times and I sometimes get the
grinding sensation that I feel before my shoulder "pops out."
Should I get a second opinion? -
Holly |
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I recommend
you see another orthopedic surgeon for an examination and to obtain a high
resolution MRI scan. It is likely you have torn your labral cartilage
which is important in shoulder stability. Also many gymnasts have loose
shoulders "multidirectional instability." These sometimes can be
treated with a rehab program, but depending upon your exam could require
arthroscopic or open shoulder stabilization procedures.
- The Jock Doc
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i'm an 19
competitive swimmer, and I had arthroscopic surgery on my shoulder in mid
June. The doc fixed a labrium tear, tightened my capsule, and shaved some
bone. I was wondering, in your experience, how long does it take after this
type of surgery to get back completely in one's sports? And how long before
bothering/pain in the shoulder will go away? -
Christine |
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Labral
cartilage repairs to improve shoulder stability and function can take up
to 1 year to heal. Therefore it is not unusual for you to still be having
symptoms. If you are still concerned however, I recommend you get a second
orthopedic opinion to make certain that you are progressing at an
appropriate pace.
- The Jock Doc
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I'm 32 years
old and I've had chronic separations of my shoulder. I want to have
surgery done and I want to know what the chance of the shoulder coming out
again, and the time period that it takes to get back to normal after surgery. -
Bryan |
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The joint
above the shoulder (acromioclavicular joint) is the one that can be
separated usually by a fall on the point of the shoulder such as falling
off a bike or being tackled in football. It sounds like your problem is
subluxation of the shoulders (sliding in and out of place). This is an
injury to the ball and socket part of the joint (glenohumeral joint).. Many
patients with unstable shoulders can respond to a rehab program aimed at
strengthening to improve stability. The successful results with surgery
are best for patients who can not slide the shoulders in and out of place
voluntarily. I recommend you discuss your shoulders with an orthopedic
surgeon with shoulder experience to help determine the best treatment for
yourself.
- The Jock Doc
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My 14 year
old son has been diagnosed with a tear of the sub-scapular tendon . We've
done ice, Advil, rest and the doctor says surgery is the answer but this is
a rare tendon to tear and I am concerned with the unfamiliarity of surgery
on this tendon. Any comments or advice?
- Buffy |
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The
subscapularis tendon is an important internal rotator of the shoulder. It
is unusual to tear this tendon, particularly in a 14 year old. An MRI scan
can be very helpful in confirming this diagnosis. If in fact the diagnosis
is correct and since your son has also failed non surgical treatment, then
surgery is likely necessary to achieve a near normal shoulder.
- The Jock Doc
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I am a 38
year old male who has, unfortunately dislocated my shoulder many times,
(probably at least 10 times in the last 5 years), I know I will probably
have to have surgery, but until I was just curious as to what causes the
painful muscle spasms that occur while the shoulder is out and would the
fact that I have had so many dislocations lessen the likely hood of surgery
being effective.
- Chris |
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It is
important to establish exactly what is wrong with your shoulder before I
can answer as to the likelihood of success with surgery. Is their a large
defect on the ball of the shoulder (Hill Sachs defect) ? Is the rotator
cuff torn? What is the condition of the labral cartilage? Is arthritis
present? Is the shoulder unstable in more then one direction? Your
orthopedic surgeon can answer these questions with the physical exam,
x-rays, and possibly a MRI. Most patients, however, can achieve very good
results with surgery to stabilize the shoulder. Also, the pain associated
with dislocations is due to a number of causes such as tearing of the
labrum, tearing of the joint capsule, the muscles contracting abnormally,
and pressure on the nerve receptors.
- The Jock Doc
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Is swelling
in the lower neck right side and across the top of the shoulder normal
post-op symptoms? I fell on my right shoulder 06/27/98 and had surgery on
11/04/98.I was diagnoised with a partial thickness tear of the right rotator
cuff.Any information you could send me would be appreciated.
- Stan |
Answer:
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Swelling of
the neck, shoulder and arm are common after arthroscopic surgery of the
shoulder. The major swelling resolves after a couple of days. Complete
resolution of swelling can take several weeks.
- The Jock Doc
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My 12 year
old daughter had an MRI and was diagnosed with a small tear in the Rotator
Cuff from softball pitching. She is starting PT but our concern is, can this
heal without surgery? Everything I've read says it can't but others have
said that because of her age, there is a good possibility of it healing.
Have you any information on this happening to someone so young? She wants so
badly to be able to play softball again. Thank you.
- Darlene |
Answer:
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Injuries to
the rotator cuff in 12 year olds are very uncommon. However, a small tear
may do well without surgical intervention and may in fact heal. I agree
with your doctor who recommends trying conservative treatment such as
physical therapy and modification of your daughters activity. It is also
possible that the MRI may not be entirely accurate and that your daughter
could have sustained a stress fracture of the shoulder that will
heal with time or a labral cartilage injury which is common in the
throwing athlete. I recommend you follow your orthopedists advice and
hopefully your daughter will be back pitching very soon.
- The Jock Doc
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My son has a
Hill-Sachs Lesion from recurrent dislocations. What are the current surgical
options for repair and prognosis for success? Thank you.
- Ira |
Answer:
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Unfortunately
patients who have several dislocations are likely to continue having
recurrent dislocations unless the problem is fixed with surgery. Depending
on the size of the Hill Sachs lesion, your son's age, the number of
dislocations, and the quality of the torn labral cartilage tissue, will
determine whether this problem can be fixed successfully arthroscopically
(unlikely) or with an open surgical repair. Our
understanding of shoulder instabilities have improved dramatically in the
last ten years and it is very likely that your son could achieve a good
result with surgical treatment.
- The Jock Doc
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I have been
Dx. with a paralabral cyst in my shoulder following a subluxation, could you
describe this further because my doctor was not very articulate. Thanks.
- Erik |
Answer:
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Your doctor is
right in that by repairing your meniscal cartilage damage the swelling in
the joint will decrease and the cyst may resolve itself. However, it
usually requires about 4 to 6 weeks to return to your normal workout
routine. The doctor will likely recommend post op rehab to hasten your
recovery. Usually you can be without crutches in 1 -2 days and back to
work in a mostly sitting capacity in a couple of days.
- The Jock Doc
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I am a 22 y/o male with
multidirectional instability. I continue to play baseball with a great deal
of work before and after throwing to make sure the RC does not fatigue I am
interested in what surgical technique you use for this pathology as I have
had symptoms since 93, and I am looking for a more permanent solution.
- Jeffery |
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Patient's with
multidirectional instability "a loose shoulder joint" are
usually effectively treated with rehab and an exercise program to relieve
symptoms. Since your symptoms have persisted for 6 years you may
require surgical treatment to help your problem. First, I usually order an
MRI scan to determine whether other damage exists in the shoulder that
would effect the choice of the surgical procedure. Up until the last few
years, patients with significant multidirectional instability were treated
with an open capsular shift reconstructive procedure to correct the
problem. However, patients had a long rehab program post op and many times
had difficulty regaining full shoulder motion. In select patients with
instability we now perform an arthroscopic procedure called a thermal
capsuloraphy that tightens the shoulder joint with easier post op
recovery. I recommend you return to your orthopedic surgeon to further
discuss your treatment options.
- The Jock Doc
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Question:
I have a
medical problem and I'm very worried about it. I have dislocated my left shoulder 3
times in my life: The first time, I was 18 years old and I fell during a football
game. The second time, last august, I dislocated my shoulder jumping into a swimming
pool. The third time was this year in July during a football game.
Please tell me the best way
to prevent future dislocations so I can continue my sport life (I also like body building,
and I heard from one of my friends that body building could solve this problem, is this
true?). I heard also that there is a shoulder surgery, but the doctor told me that
after the operation my shoulder would not be 100% fit and it could stop my sport life.
Please advise me Doctor.
Information About Me : I'm
male, 25 years old, height 167cm, weight 59 kg.
- Abdullah |
Answer:
When a
shoulder is dislocated usually the shoulder capsule and Labrum(cartilage) are torn. These
usually do not heal by themselves. Although a strengthening program emphasizing the
shoulder internal rotators may be helpful in preventing future dislocations for some
patients, in your case where the shoulder has dislocated 3 times it is unlikely to be very
effective. An MRI scan may be helpful in determining the extent of the damage to your
shoulder. It may help show whether your shoulder can be stabilized with arthroscopic
surgery alone, or whether an open surgical procedure may be necessary. Most patients can
achieve an excellent result with surgery and return to their competitive sports.
- The Jock Doc |
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